| Picture No: | 308 |
| Courtesy of: | Barry Yates |
| Year: | 1906 |
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Rye Harbour wedding
This photo was sent by Julian Exeter, whose mother recently died.
"The photo shows the wedding party of my Mother's parents taken on 10th Sept 1906. I assume the wedding was in the local church though I confess I have never checked, but my Mother always maintained the village was decorated for the occasion. My grandmother - Harriette Louise Caister Smith (of Rye) is standing just to the left of the Martello Tower, while my grandfather - George Arscott James (from London) is seated. The photographer was E Whiteman of Rye. I assume the area is now the car park adjacent to the tower."
Picture Added on 26 September 2011.
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I am doing a genealogy search for a friend whose ancestor is a Harriett Smith, daughter of Robert Pulford Smith and Louise Caister according to her wedding certificate in April 1929 in Vancouver, Canada at the age of 40. Would you know how she fits into your family? thank you.
Added by Pat McCalib on 18 June 2020.
Added by Pat McCalib on 18 June 2020.
Louise Rebecca Caister (1858 - 1935) married Robert Smith (Born 1856) in Rye in 1877. Louise was the daughter of William Caister (1820 - 1871) and Elizabeth Ann Parris (1824 - 1903), married on Romney Marsh in 1845. Louise had at least eleven siblings. William and Elizabeth were 2nd great grandparents of my wife.
William was born on Romney Marsh in 1820, just a few years after the Royal Military Canal was completed. He was an agricultural labourer on the marsh, which means he was probably working with sheep or with some of the cereal crops that were grown on the marsh. He also worked on the sea wall. William was only twelve when his parents died (as paupers) and it seems he went to live with his cousins (Edward Glazier & Jane Dowle). As an example of their poverty on October 30th 1832 he and his siblings were allowed clothes from the parish.
Elizabeth was born in Hampstead in 1824 being baptised with her sister Sarah on May 8th 1825 in St. John’s. Hampstead was once part of the great forest of Middlesex. The first real development of the area started about 1700 and Hampstead became very fashionable in 1707 to 1713 when the chalybeate spring in Well Walk was in competition with the Spas of bath and Tunbrige Wells. Hampstead remained a village until the 1800s. In the 1820’s the Finchley New Road was built and in 1846 Sir Thomas Maryon Wilson tried to build houses on the Heath, starting with the building of a viaduct road. By the time the Hampstead Junction Railway opened in 1860, Elizabeth was living in Rye Harbour.
It seems that about ten years after they married in 1845 William and Elizabeth moved to The William the Conqueror Public House in Rye Harbour, where they were lodgers with the publican William Watson. William then became the foreman of works, either on the river harbour works or on the gravel extraction works which were on going at the time. When William died in 1871 he left Elizabeth with nine children at home ranging in age from 1 to 21. Five of the older children went to Hartlepool at about this time. Sometime after 1881 Elizabeth moved to Dover probably to live with one of their children.
Added by Chris Coleman on 19 June 2020.
William was born on Romney Marsh in 1820, just a few years after the Royal Military Canal was completed. He was an agricultural labourer on the marsh, which means he was probably working with sheep or with some of the cereal crops that were grown on the marsh. He also worked on the sea wall. William was only twelve when his parents died (as paupers) and it seems he went to live with his cousins (Edward Glazier & Jane Dowle). As an example of their poverty on October 30th 1832 he and his siblings were allowed clothes from the parish.
Elizabeth was born in Hampstead in 1824 being baptised with her sister Sarah on May 8th 1825 in St. John’s. Hampstead was once part of the great forest of Middlesex. The first real development of the area started about 1700 and Hampstead became very fashionable in 1707 to 1713 when the chalybeate spring in Well Walk was in competition with the Spas of bath and Tunbrige Wells. Hampstead remained a village until the 1800s. In the 1820’s the Finchley New Road was built and in 1846 Sir Thomas Maryon Wilson tried to build houses on the Heath, starting with the building of a viaduct road. By the time the Hampstead Junction Railway opened in 1860, Elizabeth was living in Rye Harbour.
It seems that about ten years after they married in 1845 William and Elizabeth moved to The William the Conqueror Public House in Rye Harbour, where they were lodgers with the publican William Watson. William then became the foreman of works, either on the river harbour works or on the gravel extraction works which were on going at the time. When William died in 1871 he left Elizabeth with nine children at home ranging in age from 1 to 21. Five of the older children went to Hartlepool at about this time. Sometime after 1881 Elizabeth moved to Dover probably to live with one of their children.
Added by Chris Coleman on 19 June 2020.
Thank you Chris for that information. I knew none of that. My Harriet Smith (see above) was born 0ct 1884 . Can you or anyone tell me how she is related to the Harriet in the picture. Who were the picture’s Harriet’s parents?
Thank you
Added by Pat McCalib on 23 June 2020.
Thank you
Added by Pat McCalib on 23 June 2020.
Harriett, Louisa, Caister Smith was born oct 1884 in Rye, daughter of Robert Smith and Louise Caister. She married George Ascott James in 1906 at Rye Harbour
Added by Chris Coleman on 26 June 2020.
Added by Chris Coleman on 26 June 2020.
Now I am really confused. The Kent, England, Church of England Baptisms, Marriages, and Burials, 1538-1914, show William Caister marrying Elizabeth Ann Parris in Dymchurch, Kent in 1845 and the 1851, 1861 Census for Rye show William as being born in Dymchurch but now living in Rye.
Added by Pat McCalib on 27 June 2020.
Added by Pat McCalib on 27 June 2020.
The census forms give Parish of Icklesham, Borough and Liberties of Winchelsea, Parliamentary Borough of Rye. This all covers a large area, and includes Rye Harbour.
Added by on 28 June 2020.
Added by on 28 June 2020.
thank you for the the Dymchurch information.
My Harriet Smith also says she is the daughter of Robert Pulford Smith and Louise Caister (marriage registration)
Her sister, Matilda, came out to visit her in 1925. Where have I gone wrong if your Harriet is the daughter of Robert and Louise? Matilda's probate record says she is the daughter of Robert Pulford Smith. Thank you
Added by Pat McCalib on 08 July 2020.
My Harriet Smith also says she is the daughter of Robert Pulford Smith and Louise Caister (marriage registration)
Her sister, Matilda, came out to visit her in 1925. Where have I gone wrong if your Harriet is the daughter of Robert and Louise? Matilda's probate record says she is the daughter of Robert Pulford Smith. Thank you
Added by Pat McCalib on 08 July 2020.
correction:My Harriet said her birth was October, 1885. I can't find a record of it. Also, would anyone have a birth record or marriage registration for the Harriet Smith said to marry George James that gives parents names? thank you
Added by Pat McCalib on 06 August 2020.
Added by Pat McCalib on 06 August 2020.
Added by Henri on 12 January 2012.